Twittersation
The final chapter of Computers and the Teaching of Writing in American Higher Education 1979-1994: A History (Hawisher et al., 2006), which we abbreviate as The History Book), is called, “Our Colleagues Interact on a MOO.” The six “MOOers” involved were Eric Crump, Michael Day, Joyce Locke Carter, Johndan Johnson-Eilola, Becky Rickly, and Pamela Takayoshi. The chapter is a transcript of their conversation. Twenty years later the six reconvened for a discussion via Twitter (a Twittersation) about the (sub)field as they knew it then and saw it at the time of the conversation in 2014. The Twittersation was led by Jennifer Marlow and moved from talk about the state of the (sub)field to plans to return again to the venue of MediaMOO for further discussion.
The MOO discussion at the end of The History Book began in a similar place as the 2014 discussion provided here, with participants discussing their early involvement in the (sub)field. In The History Book conversation, there were mentions of Listservs (many long now defunct), “CAI folks” versus those who do word processing, and the issue of the digital divide. Rickly compared the coming together of computers and writing to pairing the chocolate with the peanut butter, and then asked whether or not the (sub)field is “real” (p. 292). Crump predicted the fading away of computers and writing “as we know it,” arguing rhetoric and technology had a stronger future ahead (p. 296). The participants discussed the (sub)field’s collegiality as a potential liability in the future because, as Crump pointed out, “the conventional rhetorical stance in academia conversations is confrontational.” However, he continued on to say, “but network environments have the *potential* to dislodge the default stance, eh? (p. 295).
The group also began brainstorming the beginnings of a kind of “Wyoming Resolution about grad students and technology” (p. 302). Johnson-Eilola suggested calling it “the DaedalusMOO resolution” (p. 302). This launched a discussion of the (sub)field’s responsibilities: teaching that literacy is a technology, promoting “techno-rhetoro-literacy” in society, and shaping the technology we use (p. 302). This morphed into a discussion about the relationship between technology and pedagogy. Carter stated that the computers and writing community made the “marriage” between computers and composition happen, and Rickly described it as the (sub)field’s responsibility to “see that they remain blissfully happy” (p. 303).
As in the 2014 Twittersation, the issue of tenure was raised and concern was expressed about how so much of what computers and writing teacher-scholars do is not measurable by typical tenure requirements.
The MOO conversation was punctuated by real life moments: Day heading off to bed, Crump dealing with his (kid, cat, dog??) peeing on the living room floor, and Johnson-Eilola’s dog barking hello.
The 2014 Twittersation, had fewer of these personal interactions, although Carter and Day threw in some waves for old time’s sake. The participants spent some time catching up—more than a few expressed that they no longer feel a part of the (sub)field, and those that remain active commented on recent trends and the “feel” of the Computers and Writing Conference. There was no longer discussion of word processing or the digital divide. Instead, there were conversations about Google glass and hacking, as well as comparisons between interacting via MOO and Twitter (MOO wins according to these six teacher-scholars).
This conversation can also be seen via Twitter using #CWconvo14. To view the full transcript, please scroll to the bottom of this page and view the More Twittersation page.
Reminder: @ewcrump, @mday666, @pamtaka, @JoyceLocke, @kairoshorses, & @johndan #CWconvo14 - discuss history of the field & where it is today
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
@ewcrump @mday666 @pamtaka @JoyceLocke @kairoshorses @johndan 12-1pm eastern time today! #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
@marlowjm @ewcrump @mday666 @JoyceLocke @kairoshorses @johndan see you then!
— pam takayoshi (@pamtaka) August 7, 2014
so is the plan to do all these direct messages, as well as hashtag #CWconvo14? @pamtaka @marlowjm @ewcrump @mday666 @kairoshorses @johndan
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
.@JoyceLocke I don't think so, you won't have room to say anything, so just use hashtag & @ reply for direct address. #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
@marlowjm @ewcrump @mday666 @pamtaka @JoyceLocke @kairoshorses @johndan Trying out tweeting from the computer rather than the phone.
— Rebecca Rickly (@rhet_rickly) August 7, 2014
.@rhet_rickly that will probably make life easier for conversation style twitter use. #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
@JoyceLocke @pamtaka @marlowjm @mday666 @kairoshorses @johndan So this is cool. I'm practically a twitter newbie. #CWconvo14
— Eric Crump (@ewcrump) August 7, 2014
#CWconvo14 Greetings!
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
Brief catch up: Do you still consider yourself active in C&W? What have you been up to in (or out)of C&W since you last all met? #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
Things are going to get a little weird for the next hour. I'm part of a conversation revisiting a 1996 book chapter. #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
Search #CWconvo14 if you want more context.
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
Do you feel like we're civil war re-enactors? "I fought in the Hypertext Wars of the Early '90s." #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
@marlowjm #CWconvo14 Yes, I consider myself active in CW. Still go to the conf. every year and present. Lately interested in ePortfolio
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
Yes, I consider myself active in C&W -- I've been part of a grad program that employs a lot of those concepts #CWconvo14
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
.@JoyceLocke What concepts specifically would you say, Joyce? #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
@marlowjm #CWconvo14 Our FYComp program has always been and continues to be very computer/lab/online (though hybrid, not virtual) oriented
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
.@marlowjm #CWconvo14 well, the maker-approach, for one. Looking at texts as code to be programmed, molded, compiled, for another
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
Not really active in C&W. Most of my work is in design, audio, etc. now (since around 2000).
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
ha. do I get to shoot the cannon, johndan? #CWconvo14
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
Field seems to have exploded, with some areas of specialization but other parts flung off into other disciplines. #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
@joycelocke Fire away! #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
just never found a use for it before. Thanks Jenn for this excuse to give it a go! #CWconvo14
— Eric Crump (@ewcrump) August 7, 2014
@mday666 @marlowjm #CWconvo14 I went to the conference and felt a bit....out of it. Perhaps because of the explosion.
— Rebecca Rickly (@rhet_rickly) August 7, 2014
@JoyceLocke #CWconvo14 We all have to wear uniforms for the re-enactment.
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
@JoyceLocke #CWconvo14 I have a bunch of vintage CW Tshirts for y'all to wear.
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
@JoyceLocke #CWconvo14 and gaming still seems to be big in the CW community. Gee's talk last year at Frostburg made that clear
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
I'm afraid I'm not very active. I just manage the techrhet discussion list. That's about it. #CWconvo14
— Eric Crump (@ewcrump) August 7, 2014
@rhet_rickly #CWconvo14 Really Becky? I can't imagine you not at the center of all things CW. But true, there are so many new things.
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
Question: Did C&W ever get over the angst about whether digital pubs counted for T&P? #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
I think I got flung off -- into journalism (the practice, not the academics). People always said I'd come to a bad end :-) #CWconvo14
— Eric Crump (@ewcrump) August 7, 2014
@mday666 if C&W is all things technical/rhetorical, I'm so out of it! But I still use technology every day. No longer a frontrunner, tho.
— Rebecca Rickly (@rhet_rickly) August 7, 2014
@johndan #CWconvo14 for most schools, yes, digital pubs are ok. But it's still a little iffy to hear some colleagues speak of it.
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
@johndan #CWconvo14 Your mileage may vary on that Q. But I see a lot of progress in changing T & P expectations, both locally and natly
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
@johndan good question, Johndan. I angsted about that quite a bit back in the day. Is Kairos cool with tenure committees? #CWconvo14
— Eric Crump (@ewcrump) August 7, 2014
I've been out of C&W for awhile ... I don't go to as many conferences as I used to. #CWconvo14
— pam takayoshi (@pamtaka) August 7, 2014
@mday666 @JoyceLocke That's good to hear. I think now it's a question of the quality of the venue rather than medium.
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
@johndan #CWconvo14 And there have been some good recent pubs in CCC, Profession, C & C, on the importance of valuing digital work.
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
@johndan @mday666 @JoyceLocke Peer review, journal prestige, and impact should be the quality metrics, not online vs print. Most now get it.
— Jim Porter (@reachjim) August 7, 2014
What do others think? Is audio/design part of C&W? MT@johndan IDK—I moved out of C&W. Is C&W doing those things now?.... #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
.@marlowjm #CWconvo14 yes, I think design is definitely part of C&W
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
Back in the day, it was the only place I could talk to people about technologies. Now the field's caught up with us. #CWconvo14
— pam takayoshi (@pamtaka) August 7, 2014
@ewcrump No one mentioned Kairos pubs being an issue when I came up for tenure at Purdue. (IMy attitude was a bigger concern.) #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
@johndan #CWconvo14 Purdue is one of the leaders in the area of rewarding faculty work based on impact, not print. Thank Bud Weiser
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
@johndan That's good to hear (about Kairos \\\\\*and\\\\\* your attitude!) #CWconvo14
— Eric Crump (@ewcrump) August 7, 2014
Writing always involves technology -- I've become interested in how we know things about writing. #CWconvo14
— pam takayoshi (@pamtaka) August 7, 2014
.@pamtaka #CWconvo14 precisely, Pam -- and that was an original tenet of C&W. We still study how writing uses tech, &how writing IS tech
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
@rhet_rickly @mday666 Maybe we have to learn to be curmudgeons now. Do they give lessons somewhere? #CWconvo14
— Eric Crump (@ewcrump) August 7, 2014
Turns out that Foucault was actually writing a user's manual. #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
We're holding this discussion on a medium artificially predicated on limits of the sideband channel of early cellphones. #CWconvo14
— johndan (@johndan) August 7, 2014
.@johndan very important point, so why do folks use this particular form of tech now for these kinds of "chats"? #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
@ewcrump @rhet_rickly #CWconvo14 As others say, it's time for us to let others lead, and find ways to support the work they do. Co-mentor
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
.@JoyceLocke @pamtaka What do people see as "tenets" of C&W? Which ones are still "alive" today? #CWconvo14
— jenn marlow (@marlowjm) August 7, 2014
@marlowjm @pamtaka #CWconvo14 tenets: constructivism, tinkering, fluidity, skeptical and curious, playful
— Joyce Carter (@JoyceLocke) August 7, 2014
#CWconvo14 I'm interested in using ePortfolios to foster multimodal writing, help SS make connections, & have rich ways of knowing abt wrtg
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014
@JoyceLocke @pamtaka #CWconvo14 Agreeing that playfulness and curiosity are extremely important. Read Cathy Davidson's Now You See It?
— Michael Day (@mday666) August 7, 2014